The Ex-Girlfriend - Ghislaine Maxwell Trial, Final Day
Yesterday’s most anticipated testimony started around 11:20 in the morning, when Eva Andersson Dubin took the stand.
Dubin, now 60, was Epstein’s girlfriend, she told the court - they had dated from the start of 1983 on and off until approximately 1990-1991.
Before Dubin entered the room, Maxwell turned her head to watch, then let her head turn further to follow Dubin for a moment as she walked up to the stand.
Dubin testified that she had been married to Glenn Dubin for the past 28 years. She described Dubin, a hedge fund billionaire, as self employed in the financial industry.
She also told the court that she was licensed to practice medicine, and had been an internist, though she no longer practiced - she did her residency at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York.
After her and Epstein stopped dating, they remained friends, she told the court. And when she married Glenn, in 1994 on her birthday, she remembered, she continued spending time and traveling with Epstein. She traveled on Epstein’s private planes, often with her family.
Jeff Pagliuca for the defense asked Dubin if Epstein had gotten to know her three children, now 27, 25, and 20.
“Yes, he did,” Dubin answered.
And were she and her husband comfortable with Epstein around their children.
“Yes.”
“Did it appear he was fond of them?” asked Paglicua.
“Yes.”
“And they of him?”
“Yes.”
Pagliuca asked Dubin if it was fair to say that the relationship Epstein had with her children was uncle-like, and she agreed it was. The children called Epstein by a nickname, ‘Uncle F.’
And Dubin also testified that she’d never observed any inappropriate contact between Epstein and any of her children, or any underage females.
Pagliuca showed Dubin a photo of two people, one Epstein, the other her daughter, now 20. It had previously been entered into evidence by the government as gx241.
“I’m assuming you were aware Epstein had this picture?” Pagliuca asked.
Dubin took her glasses off to look at the photo.
“I have never seen this picture before,” she answered.
Then, Pagliuca showed Dubin another photo, this time with Epstein and her now oldest child.
“Do you have a sense of when this photo was taken?” Pagliuca asked.
“I have never seen this photo before,” Dubin answered again.
After this, Dubin asked for some water. She worked her mouth a little as she swallowed it.
Next, Pagliuca asked her about some flight records. Those included one flight in 1995 with her husband and family, as well as an unnamed female. She had no recollection of the flight, but when prompted confirmed that the female was likely a nanny for her young children.
Dubin had her first child in 1994, when she was living in Paris with her husband.
Pagliuca also asked Dubin about a series of flights where Jane, one of the government’s accuser witnesses, appeared. Dubin had no recollection of Jane being on the flights, or of ever meeting her. The thrust of the defense seemed to be trying to demonstrate that the flights Jane were on were completely innocent, because Dubin and her family had been on the plane with her.
Dubin also was asked, and denied, ever being involved in a group sexual encounter or a group sexualized massage with Epstein or any underage females.
“Absolutely not…I have not,” said Dubin.
“I apologize for asking these questions,” Pagliuca said before he asked them.
The government’s cross examination was short. Alison Moe focused on Dubin’s memory, which has deteriorated in recent years.
“It’s very hard for me to remember anything far back,” Dubin acknowledged, “sometimes even from last month…I notice it and my family notices it.”